John Murtha has totally lost it. Now he is alleging that the USA is more dangerous to world peace than North Korea or Iran.
Murtha says U.S. poses top threat to world peace
SOUTH FLORIDA SUN-SENTINELMIAMI — American presence in Iraq is more dangerous to world peace than nuclear threats from North Korea or Iran, Rep. John Murtha, D-Pa., said to an audience of more than 200 in North Miami Saturday afternoon. Murtha was the guest speaker at a town hall meeting organized by Rep. Kendrick B. Meek, D-Miami, at Florida International University’s Biscayne Bay Campus. Meek’s mother, former Rep. Carrie Meek, D-Miami, was also on the panel. War veterans, local mayors, university students and faculty were in the Mary Ann Wolfe Theatre to listen to the three panelists discuss the war in Iraq for an hour.
A former Marine and a prominent critic of the Bush administration’s policies in Iraq, Murtha reiterated his views that the war cannot be won militarily and needs political solutions. He said the more than 100,000 troops in Iraq should be pulled out immediately, and deployed to peripheral countries like Kuwait.
“We do not want permanent bases in Iraq,” Murtha told the audience. “We want as many Americans out of there as possible.”Murtha also has publicly said that the shooting of 24 Iraqis in November at Haditha, a city in the Anbar province of western Iraq that has been plagued by insurgents, was wrongfully covered up. The killings, which sparked an investigation into the deadly encounter and another into whether they were the subject of a cover-up, could undermine U.S. efforts in Iraq more than the prison abuse scandal at Abu Ghraib in 2004, Murtha said. “(The United States) became the target when Abu Ghraib came along,” Murtha said.
I now wonder what Murtha really did in the Marines. Is he or was he ever a patriot? If the rest of the dems have any common sense they will stay away from him. I have no problem with people that disagree with me, however, this guy is beyond the pale. The liberals have talked about wrongheadedness in the past.
I have heard liberals claim that the US and Israel are responsible for the existence of terrorists. Terrorists, in their view, are just misunderstood. Their brand of moral equivalence is embodied in John Murtha.
Brujo Blanco
I want to add my two cents, I find it interesting how the lying MSM is NOT covering the corruption by the Democrats and Murtha.
Rep. John Murtha May Face Ethics Investigation
by Jim KouriOne of the mysteries these days is the about-face of a supposed Democrat war hawk, Representative John Murtha of Pennsylvania. Considered a supporter of the Iraq conflict, the decorated former Marine suddenly came out with statements calling for the withdrawal of US troops from Iraq and that the war is not winnable. After the liberal media feasted on his sudden burst on the national scene, Murtha became the new lightning rod for the antiwar, anti-American movement. Recently, he said that the US military was worn out and unable to protect Americans should a security crisis emerge. And the media again jumped all over the Murtha comments. John Murtha replaced Wesley Clark and John Kerry as the left’s favorite veteran since they only love warriors opposed to war. Murtha is someone few Americans knew let alone cared about until he became the big thing in the media’s relentless goal of undermining “Bush’s war.”
Meanwhile, another Democrat, Senator Joe Lieberman of Connecticut, a respected member of the US Senate and a former vice presidential candidate, returned from a fact-finding mission in Iraq. He told of the progress he had seen and wrote a column in the Wall Street Journal about his positive view of US operations in Iraq. Other than some radio talk shows, Senator Lieberman was all but ignored by the mainstream news media, preferring to run Murtha quotes or air Murtha soundbites.
the link is here.
Why is this not on the front pages of the MSM? Because he is a Democrat.
The media are liars and supporters of treasonist politicians.
Support the Baltimore Reporter.
This story has taken so many twists and turns, if you blink, you’ll miss the next turn.
New developments are being being tracked at this news site:
http://theinfozone.net/JohnMurtha.html
A notable development: The original Sun-Sentinel’s article written by Elizabeth Baier, has been removed from their site and replaced with Ms. Baier’s revised story.
If any of you bookmarked Sun-Sentinel’s original article that has made them famous for their “the shot heard around the world”, check your bookmarked page now.
Interesting to note, it retains the original publication date June 25, 2006, and The Sun-Sentinel did not note this story is a revision.
Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism is Flat, Too
Comment by chancuff — 7/2/2006 @ 2:46 am
Please read the following IN BOLD VERY CAREFULLY, if you value what we’re doing in any way, shape or form.
I’M JUST THE FORREST GUMP (SOME WOULD SAY ANDY GUMP) IN ALL THIS.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT ME. ANY TIME SPENT ACKNOWLEDGING ME COULD BE PUT TO MUCH BETTER USE ACTING ON THE REQUEST BELOW. YOU CAN SMILE AT YOUR OWN SMARTS IN FIGURING OUT WHAT ALL THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT WELL IN ADVANCE OF MAIN STREAM MEDIA FOLKS.
ALL THIS IS SOLELY ABOUT WHAT “THE WORLD OF JOURNALISM IS NOT FLAT, TOO” WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH, ASAP.
EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY.
HERE’S WHAT’S IMPORTANT. FOLLOW YOUR OWN “INVESTIGATIVE REPORTING”, SEE OF YOU FIND MORE MISBEHAVIOURS. WE HAVE A LOT WITH REGARDS TO FIRST “THE SHOT HEARD AROUND THE WORLD”, THAT GOT REPEATED EVERYWHERE.
If you find another MAIN STREAM MEDIA SOURCE that turns that FIRST PARAGRAPH INTO A DIRECT QUOTE ATTRIBUTED TO MURTHA, DO EITHER A SCREEN CAPTURE OR CACHE COPY (PREFERABLY BOTH). I’LL TELL YOU WHAT TO DO WITH IT, BELOW.
WE NEED MORE THAN JUST “GOT YA!” SAMPLES, WE NEED EDITORS TO STUDY THESE REPORTS CAREFULLY BEFORE THEY GET SENT TO US. THIS WILL KEEP OUR FOCUS ON THE HUNT AND NOT BE WASTING TIME SHUFFLING THROUGH EMAILS THAT DO NOT PROVIDE SOUND DOCUMENTATION OF THE PARTICULAR MISBEHAVIOR BEING REPORTED.
We already know that the site drudgereport originally linked to, http://www.drudgereportarchives.com/ data/ 2006/ 06/ 25/ 20060625_183801.htm
at the Arizona star, has not changed their page, though I a significant editor there sent me an email saying it would be changed as soon as it was proven false. This is the kind of stuff that will be very helpful.
Sending links to sites as you found them, is useless. You must do a “save as” of the page, or a FULL SCREEN CAPTURE OF THAT PAGE. You’d be surprised at how stuff on a particular page you think is insignificant, is not. Get all that you can.
Here’s what to do with your evidence. Create an email with your evidence and commentary of what you’ve found, and attached files of your the related screen captures/cache files, then email them … to yourself. This will give you a tidy package to forward to us. We will have an email address for you to send these to in a few days. When we do, I will publish that all over the blog space.
The game’s afoot. (”pin the tail on the guilty donkeys in today’s mass media, giving those who have always operated ethically their moment of glory”)
Our current favorite: the Miami Herald. Ms Sanchez, present at Murtha’s talk, wrote a far more responsible story. http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/local/states/florida/counties/broward_county/14896189.htm
Drop the author a note of appreciation. She can wave them in front of her bosses when it comes time for a raise.
Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too
Comment by chancuff — 7/3/2006 @ 8:34 am
Looking at the large number of blog posts I’ve placed throughout the blogsphere in the last 2 weeks, I’m sure I’m not alone in thinking they look like spam.
My apologies to all.
Some interesting things happened today. I received an email response from Bill Pasco(e) of Diana Irey’s campaign against John Murtha for the 12th District of Pennsylvania seat in the House of Representatives.
In responding Mr. Pascoe’s email, I found it useful to CC that response to him to Elizabeth Baier and her editor Ms. Rosenhause (Managing Editor Sun-Sentinel).
The topic of those emails was “Rovian Architecture Unplugged”. If you are interested to learn more, feel free to write them.
Make “Rovian Architechure Unplugged” your subject heading so they know what your inquiry is about.
Their email addresses:
Bill Pascoe
bill@irey.com
Elizabeth Baier
ebaier@sun-sentinel.com
Sharon Rosenhause
srosenhause@sun-sentinel.com
Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too
Comment by chancuff — 7/11/2006 @ 7:27 pm
The saga continues …
http://factcheck.org/article415.html
This may help everyone understand my contempt for today’s Republican Party.
This is the origination of this Lincoln “quote”:
http://www.arthuravenuebronx.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1472
that ran in INSIGHT magazine
http://www.insightmag.com/
which is part of News World Communications (see bottom of page in link above) a wholly owned political mouthpiece of the Unification Church, the “Moonies”.
http://www.mediaowners.com/company/newsworld.html
I wrote Diana Irey offering her documented proof of what Lincoln never said, CCing all her campaign staff on, first on July 14th, and again on August 4th.
I wrote her, and her staff, repeatedly warning them of the consequences of their inaction. If you’d like verification, write her campaign manager of record (Bill Pascoe, former Press Secretary of the RNC, is calling the shots behind the scenes) at jason@irey.com and ask him about my repeated warnings.
If you choose to write, use this as the Subject Line “It’s showtime.”. He’ll know exactly what that means.
When all these efforts failed, I contacted factcheck.org with this very same evidence. Brooks Jackson was able to see what Ms. Irey, and her entire campaign staff refused to.
He published this, last Friday:
http://factcheck.org/article415.html
(note the video clip in the top right corner)
I would like to tell you there’s quite some honor to Bill Pascoe’s “within hours” response here:
http://www.irey.com/news/contentview.asp?c=35681
In conclusion, it warrants mentioning how this “Moonie” Lincoln quote came into common use, without any questions to its authenticity.
Use Google to do a search for this quote. Go back 10-15 pages and you’ll find the older dates of its use. You’ll discover it was the Swiftboat Veterans for Truth who brought this fiction to life within weeks of Dr. Waller’s article.
You will find Larry Bailey of bootmurtha.com has dusted off this Moonie quote and is using it for his “gimme’ your money” scheme, all over the net, including this gem written the chairman of Bailey’s PAC, in which it is used twice, for emphasis:
http://www.thereaganwing.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=PagEd&file=index&page_id=538
It’s no accident that Diana Irey was boons-swaggled into using it.
Bill Pascoe and Kelli Phiel, the folks Robert Novak refers to as her “handlers” in this article:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15820&o=ENPR003
“Irey, who looks quite young, is a bit green, but her handlers see her as great raw material.”
I’ll give a dollar to anyone who can decipher the grammar, syntax, period occurring in the middle of the sentence, and random capitalization that occurs in the last sentence of this article.
If you are unfamiliar with who Pascoe and Phiel are, let me introduce you.
Pascoe is the gent who hung tough with Jack Ryan, even after Dennis Hastert rightfully withdrew all GOP support for him in 2004, when Ryan was exposed for insisting his wife go to sex clubs with him and have sex in public.
“Jack Ryan is in the race to stay,” said Bill Pascoe, Ryan’s spokesman.”
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-0406250361jun25,1,933334.story
Pascoe also the one who called Alan Keyes and convinced him to move from Maryland to Illinois, to replace Ryan. I’ll let you Google that and for Kelli Phiel’s history working with Pascoe in the 2004 election.
I wish I could tell you that I’ve not written Diana Irey repeatedly about her “handlers” past, but I cannot make that claim.
Buzz Patterson used this “Moonie” quote at a chapter heading in his book, Reckless Disregard. If you own a copy, check page 65. He was not the only retired military man to adopt this Republican operatives invention. Ollie North was too:
http://books.google.com/books?vid=ISBN0974579335&id=dQipO2AmNrUC&pg=PA113&lpg=PA113&dq=oliver+north+lincoln+%22congressmen+who+willfully%22&ie=ISO-8859-1&sig=fBfOMtFSxlavNGKBMbFtreMEwfo
Least you wonder about my interest in all this …
My family settled in what is now the 12th District of Pennsylvania in 1820, and have lived there ever since.
My great, great grandfather, after whom I am named in honor of, served in Lincoln’s Union Army. He made the supreme sacrifice for our country on March 23, 1862, serving Stonewall Jackson he only defeat in the Civil war.
Lincoln was, to borrow a title, “A Uniter”
When some goofball Republican operative abuses the reputation of our greatest Republican president, in a Moonie publication no less, for the expressed purpose of political gain for today’s Republican Party … it troubles me.
I suspect it will trouble you, too.
Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too
Comment by chancuff — 8/29/2006 @ 2:55 am
THE ANATOMY OF BOOTMURTH.COM’s and DIANA IREY’s Crash & Burn
http://community.cnhi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/38410611/m/134103794?r=134103794#134103794
(Click all the links, or you’ll get/be lost.)
Cliff Hancuff
The World of Journalism Is Flat, Too
Comment by chancuff — 9/10/2006 @ 2:43 am
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