It’s bad enough Obama is making the troops in Pakistan wait months and suffer further casualities because he cannot find a plan to suit his politcal agenda. Now there is this cr@# from the most radical president ever:
Flopping Aces reports that the little O wants to try war Criminals in a civilian court.
So the big announcement is KSM and 4 other Club Gitmo detainees are to be tried in federal court, blocks away from the scene of their (war)crime, while 5 others will see their day before military a commission.
Is this really a good idea? Is it all about keeping a political campaign promise?
Bringing such notorious suspects to U.S. soil to face trial is a key step in President Barack Obama’s plan to close the terror suspect detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Obama initially planned to close the detention center by Jan. 22, but the administration is no longer expected to meet that deadline.
“For over 200 years our nation has relied upon a faithful adherence to the rule of law,” Holder told a news conference at the Justice Department. “Once again, we will ask our legal system in two venues to answer that call.”
The plan that Holder outlined Friday is a major legal and political test of Obama’s overall approach to terrorism. If the case suffers legal setbacks, the administration will face second-guessing from those who never wanted it in a civilian courtroom. And if lawmakers get upset about terrorists being brought to their home regions, they may fight back against other parts of Obama’s agenda.
Republican Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona called bringing Mohammed to New York “an unnecessary risk” that could result in the disclosure of classified information. Kyl maintained the trial of Omar Abdel Rahman, the so-called “blind sheik” who was tried for a plot against some two-dozen New York City landmarks, caused “valuable information about U.S. intelligence sources and methods” to be revealed to the al-Qaida terrorist network.
Senate Judiciary Committee chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said the federal courts are capable of trying high-profile terrorism.
“By trying them in our federal courts, we demonstrate to the world that the most powerful nation on earth also trusts its judicial system a system respected around the world,” Leahy said.
The decision outraged family members of some Sept. 11 victims.
“We have a president who doesn’t know we’re at war,” said Debra Burlingame, whose brother, Charles Burlingame, was pilot of the hijacked plane that crashed into the Pentagon. She said she was sickened by “the prospect of these barbarians being turned into victims by their attorneys,” if the trial winds up focusing on allegations that the suspects were tortured after their capture.
“I don’t think these people should get the benefit of being subjected to our system of jurisprudence,” said Bruce De Cell, whose son-in-law, Mark Petrocelli, was killed at the World Trade Center. “They are terrorists. I don’t think they should be tried in a civilian court.”
The New York case may force the court system to confront a host of difficult legal issues surrounding counterterrorism programs begun after the 2001 attacks, including the harsh interrogation techniques once used on some of the suspects while in CIA custody. The most severe method _ waterboarding, or simulated drowning _ was used on Mohammed 183 times in 2003, before the practice was banned.
Upset? You should be. The Obama administration has not been truthful with the public about the risks associated with bringing these cases in federal court, where critical evidence will be excluded, classified intelligence will be made available to our enemies, foreign counterterrorism partners will be exposed and the “mastermind of 9/11″ will be allowed to mock his victims just blocks from where they died.
If you want to protest it, sign a letter to let Obama know this by clicking here.
Oh, and by the way, the Ft. Hood Terror Attack Results in Anti-Christian Backlash!
Hat tip Jihad Watchand Flopping Aces.
According to the Danville Express,
Police arrested 22-year-old Abdul Walid Hamid of Hayward on the evening of Wednesday, Nov. 4, after he reportedly tore a crucifix from a person’s neck and scared others at Stoneridge Shopping Center.
Hamid, an employee at a mall kiosk near Starbucks, has been charged with battery, terrorist threats and grand theft.
According to reports, Hamid was yelling “Allah is power” and “Islam is great” while holding a pen in a fist over his head. Witnesses said he shouted anti-Christian comments, said police.
Lt. Mike Elerick of the Pleasanton Police Department said the man was not provoked and didn’t threaten violence, but he committed robbery when he grabbed and broke a crucifix off someone’s neck.
I’d say that constitutes assault/battery as well, and was an act of violence.
Coworkers told police that Hamid’s actions were out of the ordinary and that he had worked at the kiosk for years.
Police also said they weren’t aware of a prior criminal history for the man.
“We had multiple people calling 911,” Elerick said. “One female was crouching down and hiding from him. He definitely scared quite a few people.”
Elerick said much of the man’s speech was similar to the loud scene of the Christian activists who frequent downtown Pleasanton. The big difference, however, was that Hamid was on private property and had physical contact with someone.
“Mall management has the option of making a citizen’s arrest on anybody and asking someone to remove themselves for any reason,” he said. “If there was no physical contact between Hamid and the customers, with just his actions alone, the mall would have asked that he be removed.”
Hamid was reportedly not cooperating and was arrested by force and taken to John George Psychiatric Pavilion in San Leandro for an evaluation. Police said the case would be forwarded to the District Attorney’s Office for review and possible charges.
I wonder if he’ll receive the same psychiatric evaluation as Nidal Hasan?
Hamid was arraigned Tuesday morning at Alameda Superior Court in Pleasanton on charges of battery, grand theft, exhibition of a deadly weapon and a possible hate crime. Deputy District Attorney Ronda Theisen requested his bail remain at $27,000.
Calling it a bizarre case, Theisen also asked that Hamid, who is still in custody, be ordered to stay out of Stoneridge Shopping Center.
Through an interpreter, Hamid requested a public defender and was scheduled to appear in court at 9 a.m. Thursday where he is expected to enter a plea.
Hamid’s been working in the mall kiosk for years, yet needs an interpreter?!
Incidentally, the American Muslim Armed Forces and Veterans Affairs Council
has not received a single report recently of a U.S. soldier being harassed “simply because he was Muslim.”
The only backlash that seems to be the result here, is MSM pushing the PC mantra and not acknowledging that Islam has a part to play in the narrative, here.
And even if a Muslim, in or out of the military, has received some taunts and verbal abuse, SO WHAT? Grow some thicker skin! Grow up.
I’m a military wife who works in the chapel. That’s my full time job besides being a mother. In the many military posts I’ve been stationed in, we bend over backwards to accomodate and welcome ALL religions. We even have Wiccan services. We have Jewish, Muslim…. that isn’t to say that Muslims are never teased or looked on with suspicion, but ill treatment is rare. In fact, I would bet my soul that Muslim soldiers are treated far better in the military than single female soldiers.
Most Christians in the military are VERY tolerant. We see all different kinds of faith operating within the military and all around the world. It’s simply our experience that we live.
Let me tell you a little something about that article you linked to. The discussion is about Muslim soldeirs troubled by fighting in Middle Eastern countries. Well, that should raise red flags to the military. WE’RE FIGHTING TERRORISTS AND IMPOSTER MUSLIMS, not good devout law abiding Muslims. Why would a Muslim soldier have a consciencious objection to fighting Muslim heretics who kill women and children, who behead and rape? They shouldn’t unless they are sympathetic to their cause. THAT IS CAUSE FOR ALARM.
We have a friend whose a Major in the Army. He’s also a good devout Muslim. He fought in Iraq and had no problem doing so because he understood he was fighting evil men, not good Muslims. In fact, he was protecting the innocent Muslim civilians by fighting al-Qaeda, the insurgency and other terrorists.
I will say that for the charge that “This (sterotyping) could have been done by a rightwing Christian group”, I say, so what? Sterotyping isn’t exactly as dangerous as picking up a pistol and murdering 14 innocent people, is it? And since when do Christians have to give up their religious views to accomodate the Muslims? They think we’re infidels, we think they’re in a false religion. That’s life. These people are soldiers and need to man up and deal with criticism.
~~~I would also point out that per the article, U.S. soldiers would be IDIOTS not to look out for suspicious behavior. To do what they’re saying, and just accept all Muslim soldiers without expecting their character to speak for themselves, is the same reckless blind-eye-turning that led to this massacre to begin with.
CH Houston said, “Our Muslim soldiers are accepted well.” Then he says “It’s dangerous to stereotype. This could have been done by a right-wing Christian group.”
“This”? What “this” is he talking about, sterotyping? What a crime. Please, let’s not talk about the damage right-wing Muslims have done.
This article didn’t site any specifics except some Ft. Hood Muslim troops felt “ridiculed”. Well, join the club, fellas. Guess what ridicule I went through when Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart were found to be hyopcrites? Or when reports of child molesting priests surfaced? It’s called LIFE. I’ve been ridiculed about my faith because of the actions of others on this blog all the time. So? We all fight apostacy in our faiths, mostly by setting the right example with our personal lives.
Life happens, people. Man up. It’s as I said before, no one is actually doing anything to Muslim soldiers. It’s all theories and feelings people are talking about, as if Muslim soldiers are under some sort of threat. It’s not as if non-Muslim soldiers are picking up guns and shooting the Muslim soldiers, after all. That would be insane.












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